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Huawei vs Alibaba AI War: Pangu Model Copy Claims Explained

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Huawei Denies Copying Alibaba’s AI Model: Inside China’s Escalating Tech Cold War

July 8, 2025 | AI & Tech Policy | By Tech Gadget Orbit Team
Breaking: Huawei’s AI research lab faces explosive allegations that its flagship Pangu Pro model copied Alibaba’s Qwen architecture—a claim Huawei vehemently denies. The controversy exposes deepening fractures in China’s $150B AI industry as U.S. sanctions reshape the competitive landscape.

The Core Allegations: “Extraordinary Correlation”

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The Accusation

Anonymous research group HonestAGI published analysis claiming:

  • A 0.927 correlation coefficient between Huawei’s Pangu Pro MoE and Alibaba’s Qwen 2.5 14B models
  • Evidence of “upcycling” Qwen’s architecture rather than original training
  • Undisclosed derivation masked as “independent innovation”

Huawei’s Defense

Noah’s Ark Lab (Huawei’s AI division) countered:

  • “Pangu Pro MoE was developed entirely on Huawei’s Ascend AI chips”
  • Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) innovations represent genuine breakthroughs
  • All open-source components were properly licensed

The Strategic Stakes

Aspect Huawei’s Pangu Pro MoE Alibaba’s Qwen 2.5
Target Users Government, finance, manufacturing Consumers, chatbots
Deployment Enterprise solutions, secure servers PCs, smartphones, open-source
Hardware Fully Ascend-based Hybrid (Nvidia/Huawei chips)
Adoption Low public uptake, high-govt contracts 40M+ downloads

“This feud isn’t about one model—it’s about whether China’s AI ecosystem can balance speed with integrity. Huawei and Alibaba must choose: collaborate or cannibalize.”

— Sanchit Vir Gogia, Chief Analyst, Greyhound Research

Industry Fallout & Whistleblower Claims

Insider Revelations

An alleged Huawei engineer claimed:

“Leadership cloned Qwen-1.5 (110B), wrapped it in extra layers, and rebranded it as Pangu ‘V2’—with code still referencing ‘Qwen’ internally.”

Broader Implications

  • Trust crisis: Developers question reliability of Chinese LLMs
  • Transparency deficit: Neither party fully disclosed methods/data
  • Market fragmentation: China’s “unified front” against Western rivals fractures

China’s AI Crossroads

Three Critical Pressure Points

  1. DeepSeek’s Disruption: Open-source R1 model ignited price war
  2. Regulatory Thunderclouds: Texas/EU laws may exclude opaque AI systems
  3. Global Expansion Race: Alibaba’s SEA data centers vs Huawei’s govt deals

What’s Next?

  • Huawei: Must release training logs to rebuild trust
  • Alibaba: Needs to clarify Qwen’s licensing terms
  • Developers: Should demand parameter-level watermarking

Unanswered: Who is HonestAGI? Why did Alibaba stay silent? Can Ascend chips outperform Nvidia?

For real-time updates:
Reuters Tech |
SCMP’s AI Tracker

Analysis by Tech Gadget Orbit AI Team with human oversight. 3+ original insights verified by industry experts.

Tags: AI model plagiarismAlibaba Qwen 2.5 AIDid Huawei copy Alibaba's AI?Huawei Pangu Pro MoEPangu vs Qwen performance comparison
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